It's on Ulis to develop that with the bigs who are playing. He's had plenty of time with all of them.Superbone wrote:Good point about Williams. Those two had a special connection.Indy wrote:I think a lot of that is due to people realizing he can't shoot, and not having Williams available.Superbone wrote:Nope. He's regressed for sure.O_Gardino wrote:I'm worried about Ulis, too. He has not improved this year.bajanguy008 wrote:I'm worried about Ulis. Not only is his inability to hit the 3 really killing his effectiveness but most of us admired him last season for managing not to be taken advantage of repeatedly on D bcuz of his size
It seemed like most games he was really getting after guys with full court pressure and getting steals like all good lil guys have done in the league. This season everyone just seems so comfortable when he's on them even when he tries to hound ppl full court. The topic of who would guard opposing pgs when Book at point came up and I must say I was quite surprised to see how well TJ did against Kemba y'day
Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
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Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
Ulis will have to develop an outside jumper if he hopes to have long-term success. It doesn't have to be out to 3-point range, but he needs to be able to keep defenders honest.
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Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
He kinda does need a 3. Rare is the PG who makes a real impact while specializing in the long 2.The Bobster wrote:Ulis will have to develop an outside jumper if he hopes to have long-term success. It doesn't have to be out to 3-point range, but he needs to be able to keep defenders honest.
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Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
As a small man in basketball, you have to have special skills in at least a couple areas. See Mugsey Bogues and Spud Webb.Cap wrote:He kinda does need a 3. Rare is the PG who makes a real impact while specializing in the long 2.The Bobster wrote:Ulis will have to develop an outside jumper if he hopes to have long-term success. It doesn't have to be out to 3-point range, but he needs to be able to keep defenders honest.
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Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
Especially if he doesn't have the ability to get to the line.Cap wrote:He kinda does need a 3. Rare is the PG who makes a real impact while specializing in the long 2.The Bobster wrote:Ulis will have to develop an outside jumper if he hopes to have long-term success. It doesn't have to be out to 3-point range, but he needs to be able to keep defenders honest.
Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
Agreed. Wasn't trying to let him off the hook. He is a freaking PG, he needs to know how to play with the entire team. But it does make me wonder if Williams made Ulis look better than he is, or vice versa, or a good mix of the two. I guess we will see at some point.Shabazz wrote:It's on Ulis to develop that with the bigs who are playing. He's had plenty of time with all of them.Superbone wrote:Good point about Williams. Those two had a special connection.Indy wrote:I think a lot of that is due to people realizing he can't shoot, and not having Williams available.Superbone wrote:Nope. He's regressed for sure.O_Gardino wrote:
I'm worried about Ulis, too. He has not improved this year.
Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
I'm deeply sad about the lack of improvement (and perhaps regression) of Ulis this year. I haven't totally given up on him, but if he wants to stick on the team long-term, he is going to have to really buckle down and practice this summer. He needs to put up a thousand 3s and jumpers a day, work with a shooting coach, whatever it takes to get better.
Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
I think a lot has been put on his shoulder this year. He was coming off ankle surgery in May so he couldn't workout in the summer, then the team blew up and he was asked to start or at least play major minutes. He should be a backup sparkplug getting others involved 12-16 minutes a night.
Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
I'll withhold judgement on Ulis until next season. Like Shel said, he was injured and didn't start the season with his bod right. To me, he looks a half step slower this year, and I's like to see what he looks like after a summer to build up his legs.
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Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
Ulis wouldn't stop me from drafting a couple pgs in the 2nd round this year.
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Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
Ulis wouldn't stop me from grabbing a PG from the YMCA if he was good enough.In2ition wrote:Ulis wouldn't stop me from drafting a couple pgs in the 2nd round this year.

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Re: Game Day (Early Start!): Hornets (22-29) @ Suns (18-35), Sun 2/4/18
Those are all fair points. I haven't given up on Ulis. I agree that he has a lot of valid reasons to be having a bad season, primarily his big injury. I still think he should be locked in the gym all summer shooting 3s and jumpers. If he does that, along with coming in 100% healthy in fall, we may have something.