Deandre Ayton's future with the Suns?

[JeremyG]

I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.

Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?

Lol…there’s been much much worse trades and you’re convinced we’re letting him walk for nothing. Turner and a 1st is better than nothing, right?

No. A 1st that Jones will throw away and Turner who the Suns don’t even like and is an unrestricted free agent next summer? It is exactly nothing.

That we’re gonna throw away for KD?

You don't need a (likely heavily-protected) pick from Indy to get KD.

[Split T]

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

So worse than trading for Brandon Knight? James Jones has made worse trades, remember Josh Jackson, Melton, and 2 2nds for Jevon Carter?

Remember IT for a late 1st and then IT became an mvp candidate? How about Bogdonavic and 2 1sts for Chriss?

Your Ayton obsession is blinding you.

Wait, what? How could you put that one anywhere near the same level, much less worse??

And none of the players we gave up in those trades were as good as Ayton.

Because we literally gave up assets for nothing. Ya it’s a smaller scale, but Myles Turner is a legitimate nba starter. You’re acting like he’s garbage.

And IT was absolutely better than Ayton. He finished 5th in mvp, was All-NBA 2nd team and we dumped him for a late 1st. We’d have to trade Ayton for a 2nd for it to be comparable.

Turner is an expiring contract, likely to walk next summer.

As for IT, that was one season. And when we traded him he was a worse player than Ayton is. You can't compare apples to oranges. Ayton could become 5th in MVP voting too for all you know.

The problem is you’re judging everything on what you expect to happen in the future. It’s easy to be right when you use your own opinions on things that haven’t happened yet to judge it. We have no idea what happens with Turner, maybe Turner has a top 5 mvp season. So you’re comparing apples to oranges too.

We’ll have to judge the trade later. See what Ayton turns into, see what the suns do with what they get.

[Mori Chu]

FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.

What's the alternative? Much like the Nets, the Suns are kind of painted into a corner.

The alternative is you match his offer and keep him. Either until after December, when you can trade him without BYC issues, or for the duration of his contract. It likely won't be a max, so it won't be an overpay. Ayton is good. It would be wise to keep him unless you get a really good haul back. Myles Turner and a pick is not a good haul for DeAndre Ayton, especially if Ayton takes substantially less than the max.

[TOO]

FWIW, I will also be very disappointed if all we get for Ayton is Myles Turner and maybe a draft pick.

I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.

Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?

Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

If you're that old maybe you shouldn't be so emotionally invested in where players 20+ years your junior are playing a meaningless game. Good grief.

[SunsRIt]

I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.

Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?

Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

If you're that old maybe you shouldn't be so emotionally invested in where players 20+ years your junior are playing a meaningless game. Good grief.

Why do you care?

[iLLmatic]

I mean you’re expecting nothing, you should be thrilled with Turner and a 1st.

Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?

Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

If you're that old maybe you shouldn't be so emotionally invested in where players 20+ years your junior are playing a meaningless game. Good grief.

[iLLmatic]

So what's the over/under JeremyG will be disappear when Ayton gets traded?

[The Bobster]

Why should we be thrilled with what would be the worst trade in Suns history?

Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

If you're that old maybe you shouldn't be so emotionally invested in where players 20+ years your junior are playing a meaningless game. Good grief.

20 years?

You guys are youngsters.

[TOO]

Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

If you're that old maybe you shouldn't be so emotionally invested in where players 20+ years your junior are playing a meaningless game. Good grief.

20 years?

You guys are youngsters.

Indeed, I do believe you are the resident old head here.

[The Bobster]

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

If you're that old maybe you shouldn't be so emotionally invested in where players 20+ years your junior are playing a meaningless game. Good grief.

20 years?

You guys are youngsters.

Indeed, I do believe you are the resident old head here.

One of. Superbone is about the same age and Lazarus Long (when he's around) is older.

[iLLmatic]

Bob are you about 40-50?

[The Bobster]

Bob are you about 40-50?

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[mjwang92]

Just watched 1 year old clip of Monty “coaching up” Ayton in a game trying to motivate him. How frustrating.
This. After this much time in NBA, why does Monty have to talk Ayton up? Probably a lot of the team feels like they have to “motivate” Ayton. Just dumb. No way you pay anyone the max if they need that kind of motivation. If it’s like this consistently for the past 4 years, this staff isn’t going to get through and it’s time for Ayton to go.

[The Bobster]

Just watched 1 year old clip of Monty “coaching up” Ayton in a game trying to motivate him. How frustrating.
This. After this much time in NBA, why does Monty have to talk Ayton up? Probably a lot of the team feels like they have to “motivate” Ayton. Just dumb. No way you pay anyone the max if they need that kind of motivation. If it’s like this consistently for the past 4 years, this staff isn’t going to get through and it’s time for Ayton to go.

Too bad Monty couldn't give a little of that pep talk to the whole fucking team in the Dallas series.

Because I don't think Monty is going to outcoach anybody with adjustments and "x's and o's".

[rhylek]

At the time, people didn't talk about Ayton's lack of motivation, but about Monty's leadership.

The way I understood it, it never was not a motivation problem. Ayton was motivated but had a rough game. Monty was consoling him because he wanted to do better, but didn't succeed to.

[AmareIsGod]

Apparently you've only been a fan since Ayton arrived?

Lol. No. Probably longer than you. And I know Suns history like the back of my hand going way back even further.

If you're that old maybe you shouldn't be so emotionally invested in where players 20+ years your junior are playing a meaningless game. Good grief.

20 years?

You guys are youngsters.

32 years here. I'll be 39 in November. My dad started me young.

[Split T]

It’s official, Indy can now sign Ayton to an offer sheet

[Wally_West]

[virtual9mm]

What's up with Suns fans being ok with trades that would be akin to us chopping our own balls off? Be a hard ass, match any offer sheet, and go from there.

Doncic 230 lbs
Ayton has 4" and 20 lbs on him...

...who dominated who in the paint in the playoffs? So...max player? Really?

What does Doncic have to do with the decision at hand? We have Ayton, he is an asset, and I don't think he will even get a max offer sheet. Sign him at a below max contract. Don't get a Diaw back for a JJ.

[TOO]

What's up with Suns fans being ok with trades that would be akin to us chopping our own balls off? Be a hard ass, match any offer sheet, and go from there.

Doncic 230 lbs
Ayton has 4" and 20 lbs on him...

...who dominated who in the paint in the playoffs? So...max player? Really?

What does Doncic have to do with the decision at hand? We have Ayton, he is an asset, and I don't think he will even get a max offer sheet. Sign him at a below max contract. Don't get a Diaw back for a JJ.

Neverending buyers remorse