Cardinals

[AmareIsGod]

Kyler Murray is a fraud.

[specialsauce]

Kyler Murray is a fraud.

A little fraud

[Split T]

I don’t think he’s a fraud…he’s talented…not elite though. Offense wasn’t exactly the problem yesterday

[In2ition]

The penalties were the problem in the first half. They killed drives and allowed the Panthers to keep driving. Absolutely killed the Cardinals. Kyler isn't him.

[specialsauce]

Kyler has absolutely no vision or pocket presence. It's a 5 yard pass or a scramble and then maybe he'll randomly find someone on a broken play . Always has been. He blows.

[The Bobster]

Kyler has absolutely no vision or pocket presence. It's a 5 yard pass or a scramble and then maybe he'll randomly find someone on a broken play . Always has been. He blows.

I don't have a problem with most of the turnovers, although some of his decisions have been very questionable at times, the thing that pisses me off is when he gets pressured in the pocket and just decides to go down. Self preservation is smart, but how many times have we just seen him basically give up and tackle himself for a loss?

I don't know if they can win with him because they have a huge shortage of game changers on their roster, so there's not much help for him, but I haven't seen anything to convince me they can win with him.

[TOO]

Not a Cards fan, but I think Murray, like Mayfield and Darnold is just a certain scenario away from being very very good. Elite OL is needed for sure, also a coach that knows how to play to his abilities would help. He's got the talent, he's just on the wrong franchise.

[Split T]

I think it’s time to move on…I heard it said they could potentially get a 1st for him as the 2025 QB class isn’t good. Don’t know what AZ would do at QB next year though. Would likely have to have a throw away year to draft a new one in 2026

[specialsauce]

I think it’s time to move on…I heard it said they could potentially get a 1st for him as the 2025 QB class isn’t good. Don’t know what AZ would do at QB next year though. Would likely have to have a throw away year to draft a new one in 2026

Kirk Cousins as a stop gap

[In2ition]

Ok, I have to admit that I'm pretty excited about this year's team. They addressed their major holes and have a very balanced and talented team. I expect their defense to be a top 10 defense and to push for 12 wins and a playoffs.

[Kryptonic]

Ok, I have to admit that I'm pretty excited about this year's team. They addressed their major holes and have a very balanced and talented team. I expect their defense to be a top 10 defense and to push for 12 wins and a playoffs.

Ah man…. (This is totally in jest) You must be a newer cards fan. I’ve learned when I set up expectations high they go and rip my heart out…. But do agree it’s looking a lot more promising.

[Superbone]

Ok, I have to admit that I'm pretty excited about this year's team. They addressed their major holes and have a very balanced and talented team. I expect their defense to be a top 10 defense and to push for 12 wins and a playoffs.

Ah man…. (This is totally in jest) You must be a newer cards fan. I’ve learned when I set ex up expectations high they go and rip my heart out…. But do agree it’s looking a lot more promising.

Yeah, that's what I thought to start last Suns season and look how that turned out. I do hope the best for you though. And not a fools gold start like the Suns had. Made the decline that much worse.

[specialsauce]

Ok, I have to admit that I'm pretty excited about this year's team. They addressed their major holes and have a very balanced and talented team. I expect their defense to be a top 10 defense and to push for 12 wins and a playoffs.

Ah man…. (This is totally in jest) You must be a newer cards fan. I’ve learned when I set ex up expectations high they go and rip my heart out…. But do agree it’s looking a lot more promising.

Yeah, that's what I thought to start last Suns season and look how that turned out. I do hope the best for you though. And not a fools gold start like the Suns had. Made the decline that much worse.

Who's the QB? Oh it's Kyler?

How much cap space did we leave untouched? Oh, a lot?

Same old story, different season.

You will not see a title until there is a QB and owner change.

I would've drafted Shadeur in the fourth round if I was the Cards. Low risk high reward. They are only delaying their opportunity to contend by wasting another season with mr small hands call of duty at the helm