The Kevin Durant Problem

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INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:52 am
Split T wrote:
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I think Wiggins/Ware/Robinson/20 is fair. It’s nothing special…I’d push for a 2nd pick or Jovic, but it’s better than what Houston/SA are offering.
I think you're lowering the bar too low.

If we're dealing with Miami the package should be:

Andrew Wiggins
Kyle Anderson
Nikola Jovic
Kel'el Ware
Pelle Larsson
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Future 2nd rounder
Maybe, just seems like the offers like this aren’t there right now.

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ATL/LAC/PHX trade:

Atlanta receives:

Norman Powell

LAC:

Kevin Durant

PHX receives:

Ivica Zubac (starting center!)
Terrence Mann (grit and grime!!)
Kobe Bufkin
Derrick Jones
ATL #13
LAC #30
LAC 2031 1st round pick
($6 million off the cap)

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Id love that trade, dunno if the clippers are dumb enough to move off Zubac.
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I didn't think they would, but when I heard they were pursuing him, I thought they couldn't put a deal together without including him. But I just looked at the numbers again, and they do have other contracts they can use.

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Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:57 am
I didn't think they would, but when I heard they were pursuing him, I thought they couldn't put a deal together without including him. But I just looked at the numbers again, and they do have other contracts they can use.
Yeah, I think they can build something around Powell and Jones, which like every other SG that keeps getting linked in trade does this team absolutely no good.
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The key would be flipping Norman Powell to a third team. Atlanta, Memphis, and Houston could all be solid candidates.

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Dallas could also use Powell

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Some promise

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I keep seeing "price threshold" and "Suns need to lower their demands". I agree on the former and disagree on the latter. If the Suns can't get a good deal without taking on unusable, untradable players with albatross contracts they should just keep Durant, don't extend him and let his salary drop off after next year. At that time Beal will be much more tradable as an expiring contract too. If we can just suffer through one more year we have a much better chance of getting the team on a proper footing.

Edit: Threatening Durant with no extension may convince him to be open to going to other teams

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Or just fucking trade him wherever, who cares what he wants?
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TOO wrote:
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Or just fucking trade him wherever, who cares what he wants?
Well there's that too. But in any case we shouldn't take a crappy deal just for the sake of trading him.I don't think we HAVE to trade him.

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I think the Minnesota offer is contingent on buy in from KD

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Twolves-KD

Kings- Gobert, DiVincenzo

Suns- Sabonis, Rob Dillingham, 17th pick

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JJ Slim wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:23 am
TOO wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:15 am
Or just fucking trade him wherever, who cares what he wants?
Well there's that too. But in any case we shouldn't take a crappy deal just for the sake of trading him.I don't think we HAVE to trade him.
I’m not really interested in losing him for nothing either.

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I thought Gambo said a deal was getting done this week. Whooops.

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iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:37 am
JJ Slim wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:23 am
TOO wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:15 am
Or just fucking trade him wherever, who cares what he wants?
Well there's that too. But in any case we shouldn't take a crappy deal just for the sake of trading him.I don't think we HAVE to trade him.
I’m not really interested in losing him for nothing either.
For me, I don't want to waste another year. That's what I feel we would be doing if we kept Durant.

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TOO wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:15 am
Or just fucking trade him wherever, who cares what he wants?
I think there's a common misunderstanding about this. It isn't that we are treating Durant as if he had a no-trade clause, only considering trading him to teams he loves and wants to play for. It's more from the other teams' side, like Minny. They don't want to give up their good assets unless they get reassurance from KD that he will re-sign there. He isn't offering that assurance, so they are giving worse offers or refusing to make offers. That's my interpretation of the situation. It's similar (trade is blocked because KD doesn't want to go there) but it's on the other team's side, not ours. I think at this point we would trade him wherever if the other team made us the offer we want.

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iLLmatic wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:44 am
I thought Gambo said a deal was getting done this week. Whooops.
Last I checked it’s only Thursday. Sunday is a long way off.

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Mori Chu wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:55 pm
TOO wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:15 am
Or just fucking trade him wherever, who cares what he wants?
I think there's a common misunderstanding about this. It isn't that we are treating Durant as if he had a no-trade clause, only considering trading him to teams he loves and wants to play for. It's more from the other teams' side, like Minny. They don't want to give up their good assets unless they get reassurance from KD that he will re-sign there. He isn't offering that assurance, so they are giving worse offers or refusing to make offers. That's my interpretation of the situation. It's similar (trade is blocked because KD doesn't want to go there) but it's on the other team's side, not ours. I think at this point we would trade him wherever if the other team made us the offer we want.
Yup, same thing happened with that Warriors deadline deal.
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