2025 Suns Offeason News

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I guess I’d be okay with a Kuminga deal, so long as it’s no more than a combination of Allen/O’Neale/Richards and we’re not paying him 30 million annually. I’ve seen some Suns fans on Twitter and Reddit willingly including Dunn, and I want absolutely no part of that.

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Id be shocked and furious if they included Dunn in any Kumbucket deal. Dunn is going to be the face of the defense in the coming years. No thanks.
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I don’t like including oso at all

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Can't do Oso and Richards, also Oso is the kind of guy who goes to a place like Golden St and just blows up.
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Split T wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:27 am
Great post Mori…people who don’t like it are just reaching for things to hate.
I think that is needlessly dismissive. If you don't think Book is a franchise player, I don't think it is unreasonable to be bothered by the extension and to voice your frustration.

I like Book, so I am fine with it.

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Split T wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:47 am
And yes, I probably jumped to labeling everyone too easily…my post was mostly for the clear anti Booker members like Jeremy.
I should have kept reading.

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TOO wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:16 am
22/7/3 per 36 last year. Kuminga put up essentially the same numbers as Siakam per 36 last year and I'm sure everyone would take him at the 4.
You can't be serious.

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virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:09 am
BTW, I am on board with Giddey. A taller, more athletic Ricky Rubio is how he's being described on another board.
I was thinking of Rubio too. It's a good comp, although Giddey is better scoring/shooting threat. I don't get this narrative that acts like Booker is just a spot-up shooter if you put him next to a point guard. Booker still had the ball in his hands plenty, still scored off the bounce, and still played at a high level. Book got on the map with his play in the bubble, and he managed to do that playing next to a non-elite point guard.

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TOO wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:43 pm
I would like to see what the coach that led the Cavs offense with 2 combo guards can do with Booker and Green.
Garland is a point guard.

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INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 4:54 pm
TOO wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:16 am
22/7/3 per 36 last year. Kuminga put up essentially the same numbers as Siakam per 36 last year and I'm sure everyone would take him at the 4.
You can't be serious.
Nope not serious. I was referencing numbers in regards to his size as a 4.
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INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:09 pm
TOO wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:43 pm
I would like to see what the coach that led the Cavs offense with 2 combo guards can do with Booker and Green.
Garland is a point guard.
Sure.
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Split T wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:18 pm
And remember, it was point book that stole 2 games from the title winning nuggets in 2023.
You're retconning that playoff series. Cam Payne upped the tempo, and even the possessions where Payne went off ball, it made/makes a difference having a legitimate point guard next to Book, instead playing as your only/best ballhandler.

Like I really don't get any of this. The Lakers tried the Kobe/Eddie Jones backcourt for like six games and figured out it was better to just let Kobe play next to a point guard. There wasn't any "Kobe is a better PG than Derek Fisher" nonsense.

I can't recall reading "Jordan is a better point guard than BJ Armstrong or Ron Harper."

It's wild we are 10 seasons into his career and this is still a thing. Ryan must be smiling somewhere.

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TOO wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 10:08 pm
Melton also isn't a PG.
Shabazz wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 10:31 pm
He's as much of one as Cason Wallace.
Cason is a better ballhandler and has shown more ability to run an offense and set others up. Melton really is an undersized shooting guard. He can D up point guards, and you can get away with him bringing the ball up, but there isn't much there after that.

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INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:18 pm
Split T wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:18 pm
And remember, it was point book that stole 2 games from the title winning nuggets in 2023.
You're retconning that playoff series. Cam Payne upped the tempo, and even the possessions where Payne went off ball, it made/makes a difference having a legitimate point guard next to Book, instead playing as your only/best ballhandler.

Like I really don't get any of this. The Lakers tried the Kobe/Eddie Jones backcourt for like six games and figured out it was better to just let Kobe play next to a point guard. There wasn't any "Kobe is a better PG than Derek Fisher" nonsense.

I can't recall reading "Jordan is a better point guard than BJ Armstrong or Ron Harper."

It's wild we are 10 seasons into his career and this is still a thing. Ryan must be smiling somewhere.
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TOO wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:16 pm
INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:09 pm
TOO wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:43 pm
I would like to see what the coach that led the Cavs offense with 2 combo guards can do with Booker and Green.
Garland is a point guard.
Sure.
People have compared Darius Garland's play to Steve Nash's style, but sure yeah he isn't a PG.

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INFORMER wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:03 pm
virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:09 am
BTW, I am on board with Giddey. A taller, more athletic Ricky Rubio is how he's being described on another board.
I was thinking of Rubio too. It's a good comp, although Giddey is better scoring/shooting threat. I don't get this narrative that acts like Booker is just a spot-up shooter if you put him next to a point guard. Booker still had the ball in his hands plenty, still scored off the bounce, and still played at a high level. Book got on the map with his play in the bubble, and he managed to do that playing next to a non-elite point guard.

This is the way......!!! Inf likes a player I like??? Literally never happened before

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SunsShine wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 4:06 pm
I like this move more than the Goodwin move. I thought Goodwin was pretty bad during his stint here; he was better with Washington and LAL.

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SunsShine wrote:
Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:56 pm
I guess I’d be okay with a Kuminga deal, so long as it’s no more than a combination of Allen/O’Neale/Richards and we’re not paying him 30 million annually. I’ve seen some Suns fans on Twitter and Reddit willingly including Dunn, and I want absolutely no part of that.
Same.

Low $20M range. Allen, Oneal, Richards combo and junk.

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