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Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:17 pm
by Superbone
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:05 pm
I kinda think you guys are wrong here. Let me give you a perspective you may not have thought about to better appreciate this man.
Deandre Ayton is the best player the Suns have ever drafted #1 overall. You may have a different opinion but you're wrong.
Can't argue with that one.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:18 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:50 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:41 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:05 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best player the Suns have ever drafted #1 overall.
Or will for a long time to come. Other teams own our ping pong balls for at least the next six drafts.
Still get to pick every other draft though.
Draft picks can be purchased as well.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:19 pm
by Superbone
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:56 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:55 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:50 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:41 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:05 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best player the Suns have ever drafted #1 overall.
Or will for a long time to come. Other teams own our ping pong balls for at least the next six drafts.
Still get to pick every other draft though.
We traded a triple swap in ‘26. We get the worst of our pick, WAS’s, ORL’s or MEM’s.
Hot. But also, at least we got one. Just gotta get lucky, imagine they strike gold like Denver did with Joker, it happens, not in Phoenix, but it happens
That's a good question though. Who is the best, deep draft pick in Suns history? 2nd round or later. Alvin Scott comes to mind but he was ahead of most of your times. He was solid but not great. But for sure the deepest good player. That was back when they had many more rounds and he was drafted out of the 7th round!
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:24 pm
by JeremyG
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:18 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:50 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:41 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:05 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best player the Suns have ever drafted #1 overall.
Or will for a long time to come. Other teams own our ping pong balls for at least the next six drafts.
Still get to pick every other draft though.
Draft picks can be purchased as well.
Not if you’re a second apron team.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:25 pm
by Superbone
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:24 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:18 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:50 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:41 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:05 pm
Deandre Ayton is the best player the Suns have ever drafted #1 overall.
Or will for a long time to come. Other teams own our ping pong balls for at least the next six drafts.
Still get to pick every other draft though.
Draft picks can be purchased as well.
Not if you’re a second apron team.
Dang it! Good to know. Thanks.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:25 pm
by JeremyG
This isn’t our Richard Dumas, is it??
EDIT: Spears deleted his original quote-tweeted post, which said that his friend’s father, Richard Dumas, was missing in Oakland and has dementia.
EDIT 2: Marc Spears now deleted the new post saying that Mr. Dumas was found.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:27 pm
by Wally_West
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:19 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:56 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:55 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:50 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:41 pm
Or will for a long time to come. Other teams own our ping pong balls for at least the next six drafts.
Still get to pick every other draft though.
We traded a triple swap in ‘26. We get the worst of our pick, WAS’s, ORL’s or MEM’s.
Hot. But also, at least we got one. Just gotta get lucky, imagine they strike gold like Denver did with Joker, it happens, not in Phoenix, but it happens
That's a good question though. Who is the best, deep draft pick in Suns history? 2nd round or later. Alvin Scott comes to mind but he was ahead of most of your times. He was solid but not great. But for sure the deepest good player. That was back when they had many more rounds and he was drafted out of the 7th round!
In terms of 2nd round picks, Probably Goran Dragic is the most successful, right? Spurs picking him was just a technicality, they were picking him for us. Late 1st? Maybe Barbosa?
You can find gems all over the draft. Just look at this last one, Ryan Dunn was the 28th pick and Oso was 40th, both are rotation players right now. So it doesn’t matter too much to me that our pick swaps might be later round picks.
Also could you image where we be at without Ryan Dunn and Oso??? Ooof.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:31 pm
by SunsRIt
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:14 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:40 pm
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:36 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:01 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:38 pm
Three words: Joe Barry Carroll.
Oliver Miller.
Jake tsaklidas
Jake Voskuhl.
James Edwards, Joe Klein (He's still on the menu?!)
Maciej Lampe
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:36 pm
by Cap
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:27 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:19 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:56 pm
Cap wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:55 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:50 pm
Still get to pick every other draft though.
We traded a triple swap in ‘26. We get the worst of our pick, WAS’s, ORL’s or MEM’s.
Hot. But also, at least we got one. Just gotta get lucky, imagine they strike gold like Denver did with Joker, it happens, not in Phoenix, but it happens
That's a good question though. Who is the best, deep draft pick in Suns history? 2nd round or later. Alvin Scott comes to mind but he was ahead of most of your times. He was solid but not great. But for sure the deepest good player. That was back when they had many more rounds and he was drafter out of the 7th round!
In terms of 2nd round picks, Probably Goran Dragic is the most successful, right? Spurs picking him was just a technicality, they were picking him for us. Late 1st? Maybe Barbosa?
You can find gems all over the draft. Just look at this last one, Ryan Dunn was the 28th pick and Oso was 40th, both are rotation players right now. So it doesn’t matter too much to me that our pick swaps might be later round picks.
Also could you image where we be at without Ryan Dunn and Oso??? Ooof.
Jeff Hornacek and Ced Ceballos were second round picks. Also Steve Kerr, but we didn’t keep him long.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:44 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:19 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:53 pm
One problem with that. He wasn’t a true center. He was a power forward. Thus the reason we traded for Shaq.
True but he played C
Really only in one season, 2004-05, the small-ball year. Kurt Thomas was our starting center in 2005-06 and 2006-07. In 2007-08, we traded for Shaq who was our starting center through 2008-09. In 2009-10, Robin Lopez (and Frye) was our starting center.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:52 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:44 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:19 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:53 pm
One problem with that. He wasn’t a true center. He was a power forward. Thus the reason we traded for Shaq.
True but he played C
Really only in one season, 2004-05, the small-ball year. Kurt Thomas was our starting center in 2005-06 and 2006-07. In 2007-08, we traded for Shaq who was our starting center through 2008-09. In 2009-10, Robin Lopez (and Frye) was our starting center.
Thomas only started 13 games in 06-07…we started Amare/Diaw mostly. Shaq started 28 games in 07-08, so that’s a good 50 games with Amare starting. He missed the 05-06 season, so Amare started 2.5 years at C. No other C comes close to the production Amare had 04-05 through 07-08 when Shaq joined.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:02 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:52 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:44 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:19 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:53 pm
One problem with that. He wasn’t a true center. He was a power forward. Thus the reason we traded for Shaq.
True but he played C
Really only in one season, 2004-05, the small-ball year. Kurt Thomas was our starting center in 2005-06 and 2006-07. In 2007-08, we traded for Shaq who was our starting center through 2008-09. In 2009-10, Robin Lopez (and Frye) was our starting center.
Thomas only started 13 games in 06-07…we started Amare/Diaw mostly. Shaq started 28 games in 07-08, so that’s a good 50 games with Amare starting. He missed the 05-06 season, so Amare started 2.5 years at C. No other C comes close to the production Amare had 04-05 through 07-08 when Shaq joined.
Sorry I was gonna add Diaw in there too. If I remember correctly it was usually Diaw at center in 2006-07, not Amare.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:06 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:02 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:52 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:44 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:19 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:53 pm
One problem with that. He wasn’t a true center. He was a power forward. Thus the reason we traded for Shaq.
True but he played C
Really only in one season, 2004-05, the small-ball year. Kurt Thomas was our starting center in 2005-06 and 2006-07. In 2007-08, we traded for Shaq who was our starting center through 2008-09. In 2009-10, Robin Lopez (and Frye) was our starting center.
Thomas only started 13 games in 06-07…we started Amare/Diaw mostly. Shaq started 28 games in 07-08, so that’s a good 50 games with Amare starting. He missed the 05-06 season, so Amare started 2.5 years at C. No other C comes close to the production Amare had 04-05 through 07-08 when Shaq joined.
Sorry I was gonna add Diaw in there too. If I remember correctly it was usually Diaw at center in 2006-07, not Amare.
Yep. If Diaw played today he'd be very very rich, was always a big fan.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:10 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:02 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:52 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:44 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:19 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:53 pm
One problem with that. He wasn’t a true center. He was a power forward. Thus the reason we traded for Shaq.
True but he played C
Really only in one season, 2004-05, the small-ball year. Kurt Thomas was our starting center in 2005-06 and 2006-07. In 2007-08, we traded for Shaq who was our starting center through 2008-09. In 2009-10, Robin Lopez (and Frye) was our starting center.
Thomas only started 13 games in 06-07…we started Amare/Diaw mostly. Shaq started 28 games in 07-08, so that’s a good 50 games with Amare starting. He missed the 05-06 season, so Amare started 2.5 years at C. No other C comes close to the production Amare had 04-05 through 07-08 when Shaq joined.
Sorry I was gonna add Diaw in there too. If I remember correctly it was usually Diaw at center in 2006-07, not Amare.
Ya I guess can we quibble about who was the 5 and the 4…I think Amare was more of the 5 on offense, Diaw probably defended more 5s.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:25 pm
by Split T
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:27 pm
by TOO
Yesssss, that dude is better than Ayton too. Gimme all the Duop stock.
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:50 pm
by Kryptonic
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:27 pm
Yesssss, that dude is better than Ayton too. Gimme all the Duop stock.
I genuinely can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic. I’m at a 70 sarcasm, 20 serious and 10 you’re stoned again lol. Jk
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:55 pm
by Superbone
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:31 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:14 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:40 pm
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:36 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:01 pm
Oliver Miller.
Jake tsaklidas
Jake Voskuhl.
James Edwards, Joe Klein (He's still on the menu?!)
Maciej Lampe
Which reminds me of Nick Vanos. RIP
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:57 pm
by Kryptonic
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:55 pm
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:31 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:14 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:40 pm
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:36 pm
Jake tsaklidas
Jake Voskuhl.
James Edwards, Joe Klein (He's still on the menu?!)
Maciej Lampe
Which reminds me of Nick Vanos. RIP
Haracio Llamas…. How could we forget him?
Re: Suns News: Week 12 (1/6-1/12/25)
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:58 pm
by Superbone
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:57 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:55 pm
SunsRIt wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:31 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:14 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:40 pm
Jake Voskuhl.
James Edwards, Joe Klein (He's still on the menu?!)
Maciej Lampe
Which reminds me of Nick Vanos. RIP
Haracio Llamas…. How could we forget him?
Easily? :shrug:
