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SunsRIt wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:59 pm

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:02 am

Hi gang, after a brief hiatus, I'm back and would like to resume posting on the site. Not much has happened with our Suns lately, but I've been mostly reading the posts here each day. I missed you guys!

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Welcome back. It has been really quiet around here.

Time for the countdown yet?

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:10 am

No, wait.

I did the 'math' and we could in fact start the countdown. There are 54 uniform numbers worn in Suns history and only 50 days until the start of the regular season. We are too late to get al the way to Jae Crowder.

Carno wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:45 am

Not really sure which thread this fits in, but since its applicable to the entire NBA, I picked here.

So, I recently received an email from YouTube TV saying that they can no longer off NBA League Pass since it is now exclusive to Amazon Prime. I've generally been very pleased with my experience with YouTube TV, though I despise the 15 second skip increment (it's too long,,,make it 10 secs!). Anyway, I do not like watching sports live, preferring to start an NBA game about 1.25 hours after the broadcast starts so that I can skip commercials and dead time, which usually means I've caught up to live just after the game ends. I lot of services don't handle this well: starting to watch a recording before the broadcast has completed. NBA.com's version of league pass supports this, but it's clunky (as is the whole NBA app version of league pass). IIRC, you have to start the stream live and then back up to the beginning, which means I could inadvertently see the mid-game score.

My point here is that I'm concerned about Amazon's ability to provide the same functionality that traditional NBA League Pass providers provided. I generally do not watch Thursday Night Football, so I'm not sure how Prime has handled delayed streaming of live broadcasts, if it even does. Is anyone else concerned about this or have any insight?

Carno wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:45 am

Not really sure which thread this fits in, but since its applicable to the entire NBA, I picked here.

So, I recently received an email from YouTube TV saying that they can no longer off NBA League Pass since it is now exclusive to Amazon Prime. I've generally been very pleased with my experience with YouTube TV, though I despise the 15 second skip increment (it's too long,,,make it 10 secs!). Anyway, I do not like watching sports live, preferring to start an NBA game about 1.25 hours after the broadcast starts so that I can skip commercials and dead time, which usually means I've caught up to live just after the game ends. I lot of services don't handle this well: starting to watch a recording before the broadcast has completed. NBA.com's version of league pass supports this, but it's clunky (as is the whole NBA app version of league pass). IIRC, you have to start the stream live and then back up to the beginning, which means I could inadvertently see the mid-game score.

My point here is that I'm concerned about Amazon's ability to provide the same functionality that traditional NBA League Pass providers provided. I generally do not watch Thursday Night Football, so I'm not sure how Prime has handled delayed streaming of live broadcasts, if it even does. Is anyone else concerned about this or have any insight?

Mori Chu wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 12:16 pm

Carno wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:45 am

Not really sure which thread this fits in, but since its applicable to the entire NBA, I picked here.

So, I recently received an email from YouTube TV saying that they can no longer off NBA League Pass since it is now exclusive to Amazon Prime. I've generally been very pleased with my experience with YouTube TV, though I despise the 15 second skip increment (it's too long,,,make it 10 secs!). Anyway, I do not like watching sports live, preferring to start an NBA game about 1.25 hours after the broadcast starts so that I can skip commercials and dead time, which usually means I've caught up to live just after the game ends. I lot of services don't handle this well: starting to watch a recording before the broadcast has completed. NBA.com's version of league pass supports this, but it's clunky (as is the whole NBA app version of league pass). IIRC, you have to start the stream live and then back up to the beginning, which means I could inadvertently see the mid-game score.

My point here is that I'm concerned about Amazon's ability to provide the same functionality that traditional NBA League Pass providers provided. I generally do not watch Thursday Night Football, so I'm not sure how Prime has handled delayed streaming of live broadcasts, if it even does. Is anyone else concerned about this or have any insight?

I find that the Amazon Prime Video player works pretty well for me, but I have not tried watching live or nearly-live sports on it. So I can't speak to the way it'll behave. I assume they'll leverage their existing Amazon player tech so I suspect it will work better than NBA.com's questionable tech stack.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 12:27 pm

Carno wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:45 am

So, I recently received an email from YouTube TV saying that they can no longer off NBA League Pass since it is now exclusive to Amazon Prime...

I have YouTube TV now but I've never had LP integrated. But I did get a free subscription to LP for much of last season. And previous to that, I had LP for many, many years. I think worst case, you can still use the NBA app to watch LP. I've used that over the last few years and you can turn off scores and I have been able to start games from the beginning after they've started. It wasn't the easiest to navigate though when skipping commercials but at least I could watch games on it. Who knows what kind of navigation Prime will deliver but I would think it would be the same as what they have now. I haven't watched a Prime show for a bit but don't recall having navigation issues.

Carno wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:00 pm

Superbone wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 12:27 pm

Carno wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:45 am

So, I recently received an email from YouTube TV saying that they can no longer off NBA League Pass since it is now exclusive to Amazon Prime...

I have YouTube TV now but I've never had LP integrated. But I did get a free subscription to LP for much of last season. And previous to that, I had LP for many, many years. I think worst case, you can still use the NBA app to watch LP. I've used that over the last few years and you can turn off scores and I have been able to start games from the beginning after they've started. It wasn't the easiest to navigate though when skipping commercials but at least I could watch games on it. Who knows what kind of navigation Prime will deliver but I would think it would be the same as what they have now. I haven't watched a Prime show for a bit but don't recall having navigation issues.

From what I've read, Amazon is taking over the NBA app. The current version was developed by Turner, who basically was in charge of LP, NBA TV, NBA app, but they lost all of that when Amazon outbid them. The apps were not good, at least as compared to mainstream streaming apps like Netflix, Prime Video, etc., or even just run of the mill DVRs. My expectation (and probably the NBA's) is that Amazon can do it better than Turner. But, I'm still concerned that they won't support my use case very well. So, yes, while as I understand it, you can purchase and watch LP through either NBA.com or through Prime Video, Amazon will be doing both. I guess I will have to wait until the season starts to get a trial and see what it looks like.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 03, 2025 4:18 am

Could be a big story here

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:15 am

Consequences? In this economy?!