Suns News: Weeks 12 & 13 (1/6-1/19)

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Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:21 pm
I'd keep Beal so long as he keeps producing off the bench and remains professional. Maybe he'll buy into it longterm if we have success.
Only if he defines “success” as “making it through the Play-In.”
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If we can keep Beal producing off the bench, see continued progression from Dunn and Oso and bring Richards into the mix there's an outside shot we could turn around and be a team no one wants to play as a 5-7 seed.

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Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:27 pm
If we can keep Beal producing off the bench, see continued progression from Dunn and Oso and bring Richards into the mix there's an outside shot we could turn around and be a team no one wants to play as a 5-7 seed.
Outside as in 94 feet?
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Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:16 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:11 pm
What are your guys plans? You’re not getting off Beal without including 2031…do you just want to keep the team together and continue to suck so we keep our 2031 pick and give Houston a 2025 lotto pick?
Houston’s probably getting a lotto pick one way or the other, and it ultimately doesn’t make much difference to us since we’re not getting the pick either way.
You don’t think Book/Jimmy/KD with Richards replacing Nurk can get us into the playoffs?

It also sets us up to get out of the 2nd apron because we shed the Beal and Nurk contracts…there’s very little downside to this one for me.

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Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:37 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:16 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:11 pm
What are your guys plans? You’re not getting off Beal without including 2031…do you just want to keep the team together and continue to suck so we keep our 2031 pick and give Houston a 2025 lotto pick?
Houston’s probably getting a lotto pick one way or the other, and it ultimately doesn’t make much difference to us since we’re not getting the pick either way.
You don’t think Book/Jimmy/KD with Richards replacing Nurk can get us into the playoffs?

It also sets us up to get out of the 2nd apron because we shed the Beal and Nurk contracts…there’s very little downside to this one for me.
If we extend Jimmy, doesn't that basically undo shedding Beal's contract? We're still in the same cap situation, just with a slightly less sucky team.
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Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:37 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:16 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:11 pm
What are your guys plans? You’re not getting off Beal without including 2031…do you just want to keep the team together and continue to suck so we keep our 2031 pick and give Houston a 2025 lotto pick?
Houston’s probably getting a lotto pick one way or the other, and it ultimately doesn’t make much difference to us since we’re not getting the pick either way.
You don’t think Book/Jimmy/KD with Richards replacing Nurk can get us into the playoffs?

It also sets us up to get out of the 2nd apron because we shed the Beal and Nurk contracts…there’s very little downside to this one for me.
Spacing would be pretty ordinary - Richards zero range and Jimmy, KD and Book prefer to work inside the arc. Defence would be pretty solid though (assuming effort is appropriate).
I do like that Butler doesn’t shrink under the bright lights but don’t see it as a no-brainer slam dunk move.

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Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:44 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:37 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:16 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:11 pm
What are your guys plans? You’re not getting off Beal without including 2031…do you just want to keep the team together and continue to suck so we keep our 2031 pick and give Houston a 2025 lotto pick?
Houston’s probably getting a lotto pick one way or the other, and it ultimately doesn’t make much difference to us since we’re not getting the pick either way.
You don’t think Book/Jimmy/KD with Richards replacing Nurk can get us into the playoffs?

It also sets us up to get out of the 2nd apron because we shed the Beal and Nurk contracts…there’s very little downside to this one for me.
If we extend Jimmy, doesn't that basically undo shedding Beal's contract? We're still in the same cap situation, just with a slightly less sucky team.
If we give him the same money it does…but Gambo mentioned 3 years 110 million…that’s significantly cheaper than Beal

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Gladiator wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:47 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:37 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:16 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:11 pm
What are your guys plans? You’re not getting off Beal without including 2031…do you just want to keep the team together and continue to suck so we keep our 2031 pick and give Houston a 2025 lotto pick?
Houston’s probably getting a lotto pick one way or the other, and it ultimately doesn’t make much difference to us since we’re not getting the pick either way.
You don’t think Book/Jimmy/KD with Richards replacing Nurk can get us into the playoffs?

It also sets us up to get out of the 2nd apron because we shed the Beal and Nurk contracts…there’s very little downside to this one for me.
Spacing would be pretty ordinary - Richards zero range and Jimmy, KD and Book prefer to work inside the arc. Defence would be pretty solid though (assuming effort is appropriate).
I do like that Butler doesn’t shrink under the bright lights but don’t see it as a no-brainer slam dunk move.
I think it depends who the 5th starter is. Richards doesn’t shoot, but he provides vertical spacing. Teams have to defend his rolls, unlike with Nurkic. If Dunn is the 5th starter, that does make spacing a bit tricky, but the defense could be quite good. If Grayson is the 5th starter I think there’s no spacing issue.

I think if you’re trying to keep the KD/Booker team going, this is about as good as it gets. I’d be perfectly fine to just blow it up as well.

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Wholesome!


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Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:59 pm
Gladiator wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:47 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:37 pm
Cap wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:16 pm
Split T wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:11 pm
What are your guys plans? You’re not getting off Beal without including 2031…do you just want to keep the team together and continue to suck so we keep our 2031 pick and give Houston a 2025 lotto pick?
Houston’s probably getting a lotto pick one way or the other, and it ultimately doesn’t make much difference to us since we’re not getting the pick either way.
You don’t think Book/Jimmy/KD with Richards replacing Nurk can get us into the playoffs?

It also sets us up to get out of the 2nd apron because we shed the Beal and Nurk contracts…there’s very little downside to this one for me.
Spacing would be pretty ordinary - Richards zero range and Jimmy, KD and Book prefer to work inside the arc. Defence would be pretty solid though (assuming effort is appropriate).
I do like that Butler doesn’t shrink under the bright lights but don’t see it as a no-brainer slam dunk move.
I think it depends who the 5th starter is. Richards doesn’t shoot, but he provides vertical spacing. Teams have to defend his rolls, unlike with Nurkic. If Dunn is the 5th starter, that does make spacing a bit tricky, but the defense could be quite good.
Just tell Dunn to keep shooting like he was earlier in the year and hope the shot comes back. It’s a lost year anyway, develop the rooks.
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I mean, he's always whining and moping almost every single time you see him on the court. I figured he'd be a Grade A bitch and do something like this.
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Mike Budenholzer said Jusuf Nurkic tested positive for the flu this morning.
Probably has a flu in his vagina, am I right guys?? Because he's a weak wussy woman who has a vagina, making him weak!! huhuhuhuhu

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Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:50 pm
Mike Budenholzer said Jusuf Nurkic tested positive for the flu this morning.
Probably has a flu in his vagina, am I right guys?? Because he's a weak wussy woman who has a vagina, making him weak!! huhuhuhuhu
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Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:50 pm
Mike Budenholzer said Jusuf Nurkic tested positive for the flu this morning.
Probably has a flu in his vagina, am I right guys?? Because he's a weak wussy woman who has a vagina, making him weak!! huhuhuhuhu
Is there anyone on this forum who actually has a vagina? We might want to think of ways to be more welcoming.
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My bad; I was trying to make a joke and poke fun of people who made such comments, but if I make a similar comment (even if in jest) myself, I'm not much better. Apologies.

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My bad; I was trying to make a joke and poke fun of people who made such comments, but if I make a similar comment (even if in jest) myself, I'm not much better. Apologies.
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Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:20 pm
My bad; I was trying to make a joke and poke fun of people who made such comments, but if I make a similar comment (even if in jest) myself, I'm not much better. Apologies.
I knew what you were doing 🤣
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:44 pm
Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:20 pm
My bad; I was trying to make a joke and poke fun of people who made such comments, but if I make a similar comment (even if in jest) myself, I'm not much better. Apologies.
I knew what you were doing 🤣
lol monistat 7 FTW!

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Mori Chu wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:20 pm
My bad; I was trying to make a joke and poke fun of people who made such comments, but if I make a similar comment (even if in jest) myself, I'm not much better. Apologies.
I understood your intent and was backing up the point you were making, even though you’re sorry about the way you made it.

And I for one appreciate your sensitivity about both the point and the regrettable way you made it.
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